Jump to video Naia UX Researcher: Perfect. So I'm not sure who will be. Oh, sorry. Recording. Okay. Great. And then all your data and answers are, are going to be kept confidential. And only to improve the black Explorer environment. So. We're gonna get into it and then. What let me actually ask you, would you rather go by Jad or Todd? Todd Leach: Todd Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: judge, just my discord name. Naia UX Researcher: Jed. Okay. Sorry. So TA. Let's see that went through before loop. Okay. So tired. You rated yourself. I think with the five as very experienced with crypto and blockchain and everything. Todd Leach: Yep. Naia UX Researcher: Okay, so we're gonna kick it off. And do you have Cadina specific experience? Todd Leach: Yeah. Do you know the project Kean mining club? Naia UX Researcher: No, I am. I'm not familiar with it. Todd Leach: Okay. You can go to our website, but I'm the lead developer for that project. Naia UX Researcher: Amazing. Okay. 1 note Todd Leach: is there. Naia UX Researcher: Wonderful. Okay. And then sometimes you will see me kind of look this way and this way, but I, I have two monitors, so I'm just looking at information. So I'm not ignoring you in any way, shape or form. Okay. So first for some of my questions. You're a male. What, what is your, your age? Todd Leach: 28. Naia UX Researcher: 28. Okay. And then you said that you're a developer. Is that your full-time job or is that. Todd Leach: It's a side gig. Naia UX Researcher: Psychic. Todd Leach: Full-time job is a bio technician for pharmaceutical company. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Okay. Awesome. And then what is your marital status? Todd Leach: I'm married. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. And then what is your country of origin? Todd Leach: The United States. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Cool. Are you an Eastern standard time? Todd Leach: Yes. Naia UX Researcher: Oh, okay. So you, you are up late for us. Thank you. Todd Leach: oh, this is a seven it's seven 40. Naia UX Researcher: Yeah. Yeah. Todd Leach: I wear, I work third shift. So I sleep during the day, which is why I chose this time. Naia UX Researcher: wonderful. Well, thank you. Okay. So some of my first questions are. What motivates you to be involved in cryptocurrency trading activities? Todd Leach: Probably the prospect of like, building let's see. Probably the biggest motivator is just building something that a lot of people are gonna use and getting like, I don't know, some notoriety. But actually using and trading crypto. Making money off of it. I use it as like a bank account. Yeah, Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: that's biggest. I just trade. I don't do any day trading or anything. But buying and holding and then. N F T specific. Investments. Naia UX Researcher: Okay, so more like long-term growth. Todd Leach: Yeah. And mining. That's yeah. Naia UX Researcher: In in mining. Okay. Todd Leach: As you can see. My minor over here, I have it turned off so you can hear me. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Okay. So, and we'll, I think we'll get into that a little, little bit more too, cause I'm curious about that. What motivates you to be involved in NFT trading activities? Todd Leach: That one's definitely motivated by my. My friend, he just asked me to be a developer for him cuz he knew I could code. And I wasn't interested in NFTs until I started. Until he's like, Hey, I wanna sell these. But now that we've kind of got this, this website. Running everybody suggests NFTs to me and I'm like, Hey, that one's not a bad idea, but the passive income. Like ours is a mining project. You make money off of that. Arcade has another one where you can hold their NFTs and then you get paid for staking them. That's like. Staking and defi are my, my two biggest. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: Motivators. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. So revenue. Todd Leach: Yep. Revenue. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: I don't like the stock market. I like, I understand crypto better than the stock market. Naia UX Researcher: okay. Why are you motivated in the Cadina coin in N F T trading? Specifically like, like, obviously I know income, right. But, Todd Leach: Yeah. Naia UX Researcher: or, Todd Leach: Yeah. Naia UX Researcher: you know, in the potential. But like specifically Kadina versus. You know, all these other. Coins and, Todd Leach: Okay. All right. Naia UX Researcher: you know, Todd Leach: Yeah. So KA versus like, every other EVM, blockchain. This one. I like, particularly because. It is not as like. Heavily, like when, when we build something on Cadena, it's noticed by almost everybody in the community, versus if you build something on like Ethereum, it is just lost in an ocean of garbage. So it seems like a waste of time unless you have a massive market marketing budget. But KA, like why we chose Kadana in the first place is because it just has this amazing. Like mining. Like all 20 chains operating at all times, and then it can scale up to a hundred chains. It's just, it seems like it's the place to be. We're kind of taking a gamble on it because it's just. Todd Leach: Overall just Bitcoin, but better. Naia UX Researcher: okay. Todd Leach: And that's, that's why, and it has smart contracts. Whereas Bitcoin has very limited smart contracts. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: So, yeah, I've I really like being in on like the early defi stage. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Gotcha. So what I hear you saying? It, it kind of offers. Some better, some better solutions in that space. Todd Leach: Yeah. Yeah, Naia UX Researcher: And a lot of the current corners like Ethereum and Bitcoin. Todd Leach: it's just Naia UX Researcher: Okay. What block explorers. Or analytic tools do you use for Kadina? Todd Leach: I use the standard. I think it's explored chain web. And then what is it? E stats iStats. That's pretty much the one that I use all the time, because I can't find the other one right now. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: But whenever that one's down. I just used chain Weaver. To like search contracts. Naia UX Researcher: Would, would you be able to show me one of those on your desktop? Todd Leach: Yeah. Yeah. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: Share, I guess I just. Share that oh, hello? That's fun. Okay. Can you see my, my screen now? Naia UX Researcher: I can Todd Leach: Okay. I won't do the infinite screens anymore. So we gotta explore. This is what I use. Like almost exclusively. null 1 Naia UX Researcher: okay. And this is chain web. Todd Leach: Yeah. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Awesome. Todd Leach: I swear, there's another one. There's the other one. I, I don't use this one unless the Kadana block explor is down. But, yeah, this is the other one that I use. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. I love the colors on that. Like the interface. Todd Leach: It's a, Naia UX Researcher: Okay, Todd Leach: it's a lot prettier, Naia UX Researcher: thank you. Todd Leach: but it doesn't, Naia UX Researcher: It is. Todd Leach: it does the exact same thing. Naia UX Researcher: Yes. It's so aesthetically pleasing. Thank you for sharing that. Todd Leach: Mm-hmm Naia UX Researcher: Okay. What are the most important features of a Kadina black Explorer? Like while, while I have you on there, like what made you choose those? What are your expectations? Todd Leach: okay. So. For my purposes, I go to like the code section a lot here. And then I can just see if. Users are having any issues. So like instantly, this looks good because I can see the status. None of my contracts. No nobody's having issues. This person. So there's one issue here, and then I can go like to the next page. I see, they tried to buy an N F T for 213 KDA, and now I can just check their balance. And be like, why is this person. Got an error it's because they're broke. Not actually, but there's only one error and it's, so everything's working. These are all errors from people trying to buy, Todd Leach: so they probably just don't have enough money. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: So that's probably the most important thing for me. And then I also like to. I don't, I don't like that. I have to use code here. But like, I can search this person's transaction history and I can see everything that they've tried to do. And it looks like they only seem to interact. With our project. They're they're very recent. But I, I use this a lot to see like, does this person use the blockchain a lot? Does this person. Like where, where did they get their initial funds from? Is it like from an exchange or did they transfer from somewhere else? Things like that. Naia UX Researcher: Okay, thank you. All right. So some more questions for you. So how do you choose which token you wanna buy? Kind of talk me through your process. Todd Leach: You mean, like from from exchanges or from Dex on Naia UX Researcher: Like I would say in general, like if you are wanting to buy a token, like, what are some of, like, how do you, like, do you vet the token? Do you have some deciding factors? Do you ever do specific worries, things that you go for? Todd Leach: specifically on the kid chain or in general? Naia UX Researcher: Let's let's do the CADA chain.

Todd Leach: Okay. I so the only thing that I'm really focused on, like I don't buy any, the only things that I hold are Cade. And then. Arcade ARCD if it's not actively available on Cadex. Actually, no, it's not called. There we go, echo X, then I generally don't buy it.

Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: So, yeah, this, this is nice and easy arc D. Is a, is another one that I buy. Naia UX Researcher: Okay.

Todd Leach: And then I always go on the discord. So if I'm, if they don't have a discord server, I'm not interested. just because then I can like ask questions to be, I also have a second monitor. I'm looking at my discord now.

Naia UX Researcher: No, no problem.

Todd Leach: So anytime that I see. Like that there's no activity in the discord. I'm kind of concerned, but also if there's nobody in there like ____ and moaning about problems, then it's probably a good sign too.

Naia UX Researcher: okay. Todd Leach: But yeah. Naia UX Researcher: Now, are you, are you. Specifically, like you're dedicated to just discord rather than say like a slack or. Any other type of you know, like community app. Todd Leach: Yeah, I mean, telegram exists, but I hate using it because it's just like a giant. Naia UX Researcher: Yeah. Todd Leach: Feed. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Todd Leach: Hello. I'm in the middle of a phone call. Okay. Nice ice cream, by the way. My wife just walked in. Naia UX Researcher: No problem. Okay. Todd Leach: Can you repeat the question? Naia UX Researcher: I was just asking about you specifically. Like you only really wanna deal with people that, I mean, platforms that use discord. Todd Leach: Right. Yeah. Naia UX Researcher: Versus, you know, like a telegram or slack or something like that. Todd Leach: I've never used slack for. Something larger than like 10 people. So I'm not really familiar with using it for like our, our discord server has like a couple thousand and that would be, it seems pretty devastating to use that in slack. Naia UX Researcher: Yeah, Todd Leach: But Naia UX Researcher: okay. Todd Leach: yeah. And then telegram, like we have one of those too, but it's just like a constant feed of. Like hype and kind of things that are very useful, whereas discord, you can like separate. I also like if they have a gift book or. Other documentation on their website. That's helpful. It looks like oh, this is just a GitHub page. That's not very helpful. But we have a gift book. Page. That isn't finished and this is what I, I direct people to all the time. Yeah. So the, if they don't have one of these it's and it's like a defi app, I probably won't use it because they, they don't have good documentation. So. Naia UX Researcher: Mm-hmm okay. Todd Leach: If they can't spend time on that, then they, what else? So they're not spending time on. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. That is great insight. Let's see. Okay. And then, so I feel like I heard you saying you don't, you don't really interact with many other. Like blockchains or anything like that. You're like specifically buying tokens on Kadina. Correct. Todd Leach: Yeah. So, I mean, I do. Interact with other blockchains, but that's just for building, like we, we have a bridge and things like that, but I don't. Well, actually I'm on Arro. That's where I have like my. All of my stablecoin investments cuz there is no stablecoin on KA. But once there is a stablecoin. Which hopefully we're building that soon. We will have stable coins on Cena, and then I can move 'em over here. Naia UX Researcher: Okay. Awesome. Let's see. Now we're actually going to get into, I'm gonna send you a link. I'm gonna drop it in the comments. For the prototype. And then I'm gonna give you some tasks to execute. And, but I want you to think out loud and kind of like walk me through it. Todd Leach: Okay, where are the comments? Oh, Naia UX Researcher: They are, Hey, you don't wanna, let me get. Sure notes. Okay. Why does he not letting me write on here? Oh, give me one second. I am not sure why. It's not letting me comment in the notes for you to see. Carrington Lemon: Is there, is there any way I can help? Do you want me to send a link? Naia UX Researcher: Let me see, let's see if this works. Now my piece. That would be good if you could. I don't know why. null 1 Carrington Lemon: Yeah, the link for the prototype. Naia UX Researcher: Yes. Carrington Lemon: Okay, here you go. Hold on. Naia UX Researcher: It's like the paste option is not. Working for me right now, for some reason.

Carrington Lemon: Are you able to see it? Are you able to access that? Naia UX Researcher: I don't see this. Todd Leach: I don't know where. You put the note. Naia UX Researcher: It would be under shared notes. It would, which would pop up on the right side. But it's. Not Carrington Lemon: Oh, Naia UX Researcher: I see your cursor. Todd Leach: Oh, okay. There it is. 1 note Naia UX Researcher: Okay, here we go. Carrington Lemon: how about that? Todd Leach: I got something. Naia UX Researcher: Thank you, carton. Carrington Lemon: Does that work? Naia UX Researcher: I dunno why. Carrington Lemon: My bad. I put it in my comment. Naia UX Researcher: Oh, okay. Todd Leach: All right. I got my screen up here. Carrington Lemon: Is that, is that, is that where we're looking for? Naia UX Researcher: Yes, Carrington Lemon: All right. null 1 Naia UX Researcher: this is the one. Okay. So. All right. So for your first task, you have a request key or a transaction ID? Of a previous transaction. Of the KDX token. So I want you to inquire about this transaction on the Explorer. And check the details of that token. Todd Leach: Okay. Are you gonna gimme a request key or should I like have one. Naia UX Researcher: You will, it will kind of pop up. So like go ahead and get started. Todd Leach: Okay. Naia UX Researcher: And then if I need to like course correct or anything. Todd Leach: Oh, okay. Cool. All right. So, I guess this is a simulation, cuz this is really, really fast. Naia UX Researcher: Yes, Todd Leach: Like there was zero lot of time. Naia UX Researcher: this, this is, this is just a prototype. Todd Leach: Okay. All right. I was like, that was. Much much more. quick, Naia UX Researcher: Mm-hmm Todd Leach: much faster than I expected. Okay. So initial thought this operates exactly like. I would expect it to, with the dropdown here. Entering the quest key and whatnot. So it was successful. That's something that I look for in the old, old one. I see, they've swapped two KDA for 60. Looks like there's a little error there with like, 63 years repeated twice. Naia UX Researcher: yeah. Some of those numbers is, is just like for prototyping purposes. Todd Leach: Okay.

Naia UX Researcher: Yep. Thank you though. Todd Leach: Yep. Oh, that's this is nice. So it says. $2. I guess that would pull like live price data. And then at the time of transfer. Naia UX Researcher: Mm-hmm Todd Leach: That's that's nice because Ethereum has that. But, and then you can like look back in the history to see what it was at the time of transaction. Gas fee. Yeah. So everything that I would expect to be here is, is here.

Naia UX Researcher: okay. Perfect. Thank you so much. Now for the second task. Do me a favor and you see on the far left, you see task two, like right now you're on task one, click on task two, and then I'll tell you the next task. Todd Leach: Yeah. Okay. Naia UX Researcher: Okay, so for task two, imagine that you're well, you're a minor. So nevermind. You don't have to imagine it. so you are a minor and you wanna check the details of a block that was just mined. Todd Leach: Mm-hmm Naia UX Researcher: This you want to check the wallet details of the minor that just mine, that block. So talk me through that process as you do it. Todd Leach: okay. So first thing I would search for. Is this probably this table, because it's. What's happening in the latest blocks, something that is. Kind of missing here. Would be like, oh, I guess you do have the chain numbers. I just didn't expect to see the number 100 here. Yeah. So it does say the chain. Nevermind. So I would click on this cuz that's the latest block. 105 transactions happened in there. Okay. Carrington Lemon: So, Todd Leach: And I'm Carrington Lemon: so what you thinking about, Todd Leach: okay. Yeah, I'm just trying to. Carrington Lemon: what were you just saying?

Todd Leach: I'm seeing information that I haven't really seen before. Like these neighboring chains. I'm not like super familiar with. Why that would be relevant, but. I'm somebody more knowledgeable in mining. Like I'm not the actual person who. Does all the mining, I just do the blockchain stuff.

Naia UX Researcher: Gotcha. Todd Leach: but yeah, that's, that's interesting that this is like, so prominently displayed, cuz I don't know the relevance. But Naia UX Researcher: Hi, and, and actually. Very soon. We'll actually have you go through the screens again and kind of give us a lot of your feedback. So that will be actually very helpful. Todd Leach: okay. Naia UX Researcher: So, Todd Leach: So Naia UX Researcher: okay, so you clicked for the, to get the details of the block. That was just mine. And then how would you find the wallet details of the minor? Todd Leach: so I see that right here, the. Coinbase output the block reward. Naia UX Researcher: Mm-hmm Todd Leach: And then I, I believe I'm clicking the copy thing there. So I probably have the. Address that mind it. I can see there all of their details here. Naia UX Researcher: okay now. What would be so the first way you did it was that you went down to the blocks table and clicked on the, Todd Leach: Mm-hmm Naia UX Researcher: the block height. What would be another way that you could access? That same information on this. Interface. Todd Leach: it looks like that. Naia UX Researcher: Talk me through it. Todd, talk me through it. Todd Leach: Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I am not used to user testing. So. I, I just wanted to see if there was anything else in this menu here. And it looks like block is there. And then when I clicked it, autopopulated the latest block. Naia UX Researcher: Mm-hmm Todd Leach: Well, it's actually not the latest. But it did. Auto-populate a block. And then I can see. Here, this looks like the same. Data. Naia UX Researcher: yep. Okay. Awesome. Thank you so much. That was great. All right. So for your next task, so can you click on task three? For me please. All right. So. Now, I just want you to go through the screens again and kind of comment on. Each screen so you can tell us. You know, things that you like, things that you don't like, things that maybe you think are missing, you know, things like that.

Todd Leach: Mm-hmm okay. Let's see. I'm just gonna have my other one up so I can kind of. Compare here. Total assets. All right, so I'll go like block by block, I guess. I do like that the price is on here. That's something that we'll never see on like a. Explorer cuz they don't want price talk. Which is really odd, but that's nice. This, I don't think you can see where my mouse is. Can you.

Naia UX Researcher: I can't well, wait, it just went away. Yes. Yep. I can see it. null 1

Todd Leach: Okay. Yeah. So like this, this shows me 8.6, 5%, and it doesn't say like a timeframe. So like, is that over the month? They, I don't know how long that is. This, it looks like it's past 24 hours. It's the capitalization has gone up. Which is good. So maybe this could use the same. Little dropdown thing. I am looking at the transaction history now, just to see, make sense of what I'm seeing. The, I don't know what, like the units are on the transaction history. Chart or what its purpose is. Yeah, I guess this is like volume of K D a. Traded

Naia UX Researcher: So you, so you said before you started reviewing it, that you were pulling up another screen, is that, are you pulling up another screen of. Todd Leach: oh, Naia UX Researcher: A block of score that you do use, Todd Leach: I just pulled up. Naia UX Researcher: and you're like, Todd Leach: I just have this. Yeah. I'm I actually haven't compared anything to this yet. Naia UX Researcher: okay. Gotcha.

Todd Leach: Yeah, so what else? Market capitalization. That's that's good. That's nice information to have. Circulating supply.

Todd Leach: And then it has like a hash rate here. Which doesn't make sense. This is good estimated, never cash rate. I think the these two, a total difficulty in estimated network cash rate could be like combined. That doesn't need to be like two separate it's. They can put a lot of screen real estate for something that should be. Together. Naia UX Researcher: Okay, can I have you elaborate on that when you say they should be together? Do you mean like, within the same box with like a slash. Or one at the top one at the bottom.

Todd Leach: Yeah. So like you could combine these two boxes here. Into like just a, a little table because there's a lot of. White space and this a lot of people aren't gonna care about the difficulty they'll look at the hash rate. Like if they aren't mining, they don't care about this information and it, it just doesn't seem relevant to them. Yeah, I would probably just move total difficulty, like from this little section. To this little section there.